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#: 322 S1/General Information
    31-Mar-88  11:55:37
Sb: #cost of mastering cd rom
Fm: Noboru Toyoshima 76662,330
To: all

One thing I was very surprised at the 3rd Int'l conference on CD ROM was there
were so many developers that gave me samples of their CD ROM's and later I
found out that it is very inexpensive to press discs in U.S.  When you have
some maufactures to master and press CD ROM discs, roughly speaking, it will
cost us about 8000 dollars.  I does not change much even if we ask 100 or 200
discs.  It may take 2 or 3 weeks to be delivered.  There's a express service(I
think one week or so) but it cost much more.  I wonder exactly how much do you
pay for mastering and pressing discs.  Is it cheaper, then, to send MT from
Japan to U.S. and have them matering and pressing and delivered?  By the way, I
forgot to mention that 8000 dollars refer to the price in Japan ------- Noboru

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#: 323 S3/CDROM Applications
    31-Mar-88  12:20:27
Sb: #302-INTRODUCTION TO PROJECTS
Fm: BARRY SCHWARTZ 76566,2714
To: Ty Wait 76701,231 (X)

Ty, Thanks for the response to my request. I will contact these companies to
see what the offer. Barry



#: 324 S1/General Information
    31-Mar-88  12:32:08
Sb: #251-TEMPEST WORMS
Fm: Joseph Seanor 72726,1023
To: Allen Thomson 72757,1325 (X)

I will keep you informed as to what I find, but it looks bad now, not many
people are interested in making a TEMPESTed WORM.  But also if you here
anything, PLEASE tell me if you'd like you can send E-MAIL to me at 72726,1023.
Thanks



#: 325 S3/CDROM Applications
    31-Mar-88  12:35:59
Sb: WORM's
Fm: Joseph Seanor 72726,1023
To: All

Has anybody done some work with the new ISI Worm drive?? I just got one dropped
at my desk by a coworker and she said that I could play with it.  I would like
to know some of the problems that I may encounter while using it.  Also has
anyone ever used the OPTOTECH(sp?) WORM, from what I have read this is a WORM
that writes in a standard file format and they have drives for the SUN, MAC,
PS/2, AT, VAX and PC.  This is great news, but does it work??  Any help would
be great!



#: 326 S1/General Information
    31-Mar-88  12:43:24
Sb: LAW Titles
Fm: Michael Macewich 76267,375
To: ALL

I work for a large corporation and have just installed an IBM token ring
running Novell software into our law department of 32 people.  I use ZyIndex
for indexing the corporate minutes. I'm looking to hang a CDROM on the network.
Whose drive and driver can hang off my ring and what titles are available that
would be of interest to a corporate legal office.  Anything available on
trademarks? What about taxes, etc? --- MACE --



#: 327 S1/General Information
    31-Mar-88  12:53:12
Sb: #288-#Pressing Disks
Fm: Kenneth Wm. Miller, II 76367,2733
To: Frank Paladino 70446,1455 (X)

Frank,

I thought you were just a LISP programmer.

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#: 328 S1/General Information
    31-Mar-88  16:59:06
Sb: #289-CD ROM for Engineers?
Fm: STEVE TOURIGNY 76054,542
To: Richard Kashdan 74045,1726

THE CURRENT VERSION OF METALS HANDBOOK IS 15-17 VOLUMES AND TAKES UP ABOUT 3-4
FEET OF LARGE BOOKSHELF SPACE.  THERE ARE LOTS OF FIGURES AND TABLES IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS MORE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME AT 617/838-2794 H  OR
617/495-0165 W
          STEVE T.



#: 329 S3/CDROM Applications
    01-Apr-88  09:32:48
Sb: #314-new member
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: Selden E. Ball, Jr. 71571,2542

The CDs are standardized to the point the any CD will run on any CD drive.
Some of them (the ones mastered in the High Sierra format) do appear as DOS
files in a DOS environment, but for most of them, you need whatever retrieval
software that was written for the package. As far as taking them from one
operating system to another, can you do that with many software formats?  I
don't have much experience outside of the MS/PC-DOS world, but I'm fairly
certain that I couldn't take my database or spreadsheet files to another
operating system. I believe each package needs to be developed for each
operating s system that the publishers want to reach.  My company sells a full
range of optical drives and software for the MS/PC-DOS environment, and will
sell to any operating that we can as soon as the products are available.   Bob
Helfant
                 Compact Disk Products



#: 330 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  09:35:12
Sb: #322-#cost of mastering cd rom
Fm: bob helfant 75530,214
To: Noboru Toyoshima 76662,330 (X)

There is a company in Ohio that has been offering the price of $2000 for 100
disks.  I don't know if they still charge that, but you might leave a message
for Jack Ryan of Discovery Systems to find out.    Bob Helfant

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#: 331 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  11:44:41
Sb: Introduction
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: Dennis Tanner 70007,2011

Hello Dennis....I'm one of the CD ROM product managers at Discovery Systems And
we're coming out with a couple of products you might be interested
in....strictly horizontal.  If you're interested you can get back to me
throught CD ROM forum or call me directly at [phone].
.....look forward to hearing from you



#: 332 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  11:44:54
Sb: Interactive Video
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: Bruce C. Klopfenstein 75220,1005

Bruce I'm right down the road in Columbus.  Discovery Systems did several
interactive video projects when we first started.  Primarily because of our
involvment in video and film production.  If I can be of any assistance I know
a little bit about a lot of the areas involved.  Please do not hesitate to get
in touch........
Marsh



#: 333 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  11:45:06
Sb: #122-New Member
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: steve michel 70611,1215 (X)

Hello Steve....
Discovery is going to have an in depth interview with Bill Atkinson about
HyperCard, CD ROM, Appl and the worl in general on our next CD ROM Showcase
disc which will be out in May.....if you'd like a copy please drop me your name
and address.

It'll be interesting to see how the interview turns out...it was shot on video
tape and is being edited and produced by a vdieo type working in conjunction
with the programmers.

Marsh



#: 334 S2/Conference/Seminars
    01-Apr-88  11:45:14
Sb: #167-Production
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: James T. Sullivan 76210,1244

James I'm a former P/D now involved in CD ROM and multi media applications at
Discovery Systems.....I know the language on boht sides.  If I can be of any
assistance please let me know....

Marsh



#: 335 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  11:45:21
Sb: #266-new member
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: Chad Irby 71541,770 (X)

Chad....
Discovery has put a package together with Apple to offer free CD ROMs to
everyone who purchases an AppleCD SC drive in 1988.  Check out the dealer
training kit due out in April or call me at [phone].



#: 336 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  11:45:29
Sb: #286-CD SKIP
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: bob helfant 75530,214

Jeff as silly as it may sound I've restored several disc with J-Wax car polish
after my 18month old son finished with them.  Also I keep my roms out of the
little bugger's reach.....which is not always an easy task.   The kid has the
reach of Godzilla.

Marsh



#: 337 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  11:45:35
Sb: #322-cost of mastering cd rom
Fm: Marsh Williams 75126,565
To: Noboru Toyoshima 76662,330 (X)

You should drop a note to Jack Ryan as Discovery Systems.  He has put together
a development package that gets you 100 discs for $2,000.



#: 338 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  12:31:53
Sb: #192-Introduction
Fm: Singing Electrons/Tom J. 73717,2261
To: Joel Nagy 76701,232

Joel, I'd like to find out how to get a copy. Email? Thanks.
                                -TJ-



#: 339 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  13:24:04
Sb: #330-cost of mastering cd rom
Fm: Noboru Toyoshima 76662,330
To: bob helfant 75530,214

Thanks, Bob.



#: 340 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  15:31:36
Sb: #110-#A New Data Library?
Fm: Ty Wait 76701,231
To: Mark Schneider 71330,467 (X)

Mark, I think you have a good idea.  There will (actually, is, since some
companies such as ours are digitizing video and audio) be a community of users
who will want to discuss the latest technology, along with known pitfalls, in
the area of analog to digital conversion.  Under the current arrangement of the
forum, the most appropriate place for such a discussion would be data
preparation, since that is ultimately what is being done. However, as soon as a
"critical mass" is reached in the area of analog to digital data conversion, it
would certainly be appropriate to initiate a new section for that (sub)topic.
Let's see where things lead...

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#: 341 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  17:46:04
Sb: #340-A New Data Library?
Fm: john ferguson 70205,1216
To: Ty Wait 76701,231

You say you're digitizing video data?  We have an interest in putting
audio/video data on worms or relatively low volume cd's tied to a database
which would allow access to the video's based on a sort of the database fields.
Our firm does CAD systems in South Florida but is trying to become conversant,
at least on the reseller level, with a technology which appears likely to be
very attractive to several of our customers.  If your activities don't lead in
the direction I indicated, could you suggest a source of information in this
area?  thx..



#: 342 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  21:14:06
Sb: #312-new member
Fm: Tom Faulkner 76347,1734
To: Ty Wait 76701,231

I'm using an XT clone for my personal computing at the present time without a
CDROM. The subject comes up from time to time with customers (I sell computer
hardware/software, among other things) and I really feel lost on this subject.
Just got CD ROM vol II and am trying to e educate myself. Actually order vol I
but got vol II. Should I reorder? I have at least one customer currently using
CD ROM with a toxicology database. If I knew more, maybe I could have been the
one to sell it.
  Maybe you can suggest sources of infomation and supply, or is this a
technology in search of a market?



#: 343 S1/General Information
    01-Apr-88  23:14:09
Sb: HELLO
Fm: PAUL A. MURPHY 75170,224
To: ALL

HELLO MY NAME IS PAUL MURPHY AND I AM JOINING THE CD ROM FORUM. I AM VERY
INTERESTED IN CD-ROMS AS I AM IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A NEW APPLICATION IN
DESK TOP PUBLISHING AND I AM CERTAIN THAT ONLY A CD-ROM CAN HANDLE THE
EXCESSIVE DATA STORAGE REQUIREMENTS TO PURSUE MY GOAL. IF A NYONE HAS HAD
EXPERIENCE USING DTP AND CD'S PLEASE EMAIL ME AT 75170,224. I AM AN INDEPENDENT
COMPUTER CONSULTANT IN S IN ST. LOUIS AND DTP IS ONE OF THE VERTICAL MARKETS I
AM
 CURRENTLY WORKING WITH.



#: 344 S3/CDROM Applications
    02-Apr-88  05:29:35
Sb: HyperCard & CD???
Fm: John H. Everett 75515,1144
To: ALL

There's been a lot of speculation lately about what HyperCard (or hypertext in
general) and CD-ROMs might do together, and an even greater amount of
discussion of the limitations of one or another of the technologies.  But I've
seen very little hard information about what is actually going on in this area.
Do any of you know what is now being developed or considered, or, dare I say,
brought to market?  What might we expect to see from the wedding of these two
technologies in the next 12 - 18 months (lots of hyper-CD babies)?  I'd
appreciate your thoughts and, especially, the names of companies who are really
truly working on some of these kinds of applications.  Thanks. (PS - I've posed
this question in the Apple HyperCard forum, too, but thought some of you might
never visit there.
 I apologize if you've had to read this cry for help twice).

      -- John



#: 345 S1/General Information
    02-Apr-88  10:49:23
Sb: #273-HazMat databases
Fm: peter dyke 73537,3237
To: Jerry O'Neill 74365,362 (X)

Jerry,
       If you'd like to E-Mail me an address I'll send you full info.
                                       -pd





#: 346 S1/General Information
    02-Apr-88  10:52:00
Sb: #273-HazMat databases
Fm: peter dyke 73537,3237
To: Jerry O'Neill 74365,362 (X)

Jerry,
       If you'd like to E-Mail me an address I'll send you full info.
                                       -pd





#: 347 S1/General Information
    02-Apr-88  10:52:13
Sb: #276-HazMat databases
Fm: peter dyke 73537,3237
To: Eric Carter 75206,1625 (X)

Eric,
       The MSDS are actual manufacturers' sheets unedited and unadulterated.
There is also a compiled db that has much more detailed info from a variety of
sources, giving a fairly complete profile for each of over 650 chemicals.
RTECS? I'm not familiar with the tapes you mention, and so cannot compare.
       If you'd like full info, E-Mail me an address, and I'll send you full
info.
                       -pd





#: 348 S1/General Information
    02-Apr-88  21:46:33
Sb: Your forum!
Fm: Matt McConnell [MIW] 76545,2671
To: *sysop

Ty,
Just out of curiosity how long did it take before this forum was online? To be
exact from the first proposal to the time the forum was setup?  One last thing
who is Your sponsor?

Please send via the EPX function.

ThankYou for Your time.

All best wishes,
Matt.





#: 349 S3/CDROM Applications
    03-Apr-88  00:35:43
Sb: #cdrom
Fm: sherwood egbert 71171,1774
To: all

I'm trying to get telecommunications up and running in a shop that runs 2 4341
ibm mainframes, and one compac 386 machine that is supposed to recieve the data
over the phone. I would like to be able to recieve more than 32 megs at one
time. because of dos's inability to exceed 32 megs I need something else IE:
cdrom or other media to store up to 600 megs on a pc. Then I want to transfer
that data to the mainframe for printing of labels on a 4301 printer. Is this
possible and what do I need to do this in addition to the 386 machine. my
compuserve id is 71171,1774 I would greatly appreciate any response to this
problem.

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#: 350 S3/CDROM Applications
    03-Apr-88  02:02:52
Sb: #349-cdrom
Fm: Tom Thackrey 71401,3627
To: sherwood egbert 71171,1774 (X)

I don't think CD-ROM is the answer to your problems.  MS-DOS can receive and
store more than 32 megs, just not on one disk partition. It should be possible
to get a large hard disk with partitioning software, so in effect you have many
32meg hard disks.  Then you will need to write/modify your tp software on the
compac to create a new file on a new disk after each 32 megs is received.
CD-ROM is read only, so it won't fix the problem. WORM disks would hold your
data, but if you transfer it often you'll be buying a lot of cartridges.
  Without all the facts, it seems that the best answer might be to let you're
4341's receive the data directly.  In any case, good luck with your project.



#: 351 S1/General Information
    03-Apr-88  03:55:01
Sb: #scanners
Fm: John McCormick 76360,44
To: Mark Schneider 71330,467 (X)

Dear Mark, Inotice you are very interested in scanners (OCR) I don't have time
to follow all the threads of this sig and if you don't need further help then
ignore thismessage.  I have reviewed and benchmarked OCR scanners for BYTE and
ID SYSTEMS and know a bit about them so feel free to ask me for inofrmation The
Transimage $2500 hadn hand held scanner is the only OCR that I know of which
will recognise typeset material under $9,500 (Kurzweil 7320) IOC told me two
weeks ago at FOSE that they are about to announce typeset capability for their
scanner but that will also cost about $8,000 or more and is again a page
scanner. On text database programs, have you heard aboutWordCruncher? This is a
program which produces a full index and a concordance it is much better than
zyIndex for legal text. let me know if you need further details about
WordCruncher or OCR scanners.  I currently have the Kurzweil, CompuScan,
Transimage and SABA Handscan scanners.

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#: 352 S1/General Information
    03-Apr-88  03:57:08
Sb: OCR
Fm: John McCormick 76360,44
To: all

I have noticed a lot of interest in OCR scanners and would like to mention that
I have benchmarked them for several magazines If anyone has questions abou OCR
hardware I would be happy to try and answer



#: 353 S1/General Information
    03-Apr-88  04:02:30
Sb: tandy 1200 and hitachi
Fm: John McCormick 76360,44
To:  73210,2353

Dear Mike I don't know if anyone has helped you yet, but I  have the AMDEK
LASERDRIVE! hooked up to my Tandy 1200 and the AMDEK is just the Hitachi in
another case.  You will need to upgrade DOS because the extensions won't work
with 2.11.  I put 3.3 on a floppy disk along with the configuration information
so I can boot with the CDROM drive active or leave my system "clean" by booting
off the hard disk I did this because I review so many programs and so much
hardware that I need to retain the original system configuration, but this
should not matter to you, so just upgrade your hard disk to 3.2 or 3.3 Another
problem you might run into is that the older 1200 BIOS chip is not compatible
with the CD-ROM extensions.  RS offers an upgrade but I just went to a local
computer store that builds clones and picked up a new Phoenix chip for $10.  A
crude fix, but no problems afer 3 months.



#: 354 S3/CDROM Applications
    03-Apr-88  13:18:01
Sb: #349-cdrom
Fm: Vic Wagner/Metadigm 76046,3004
To: sherwood egbert 71171,1774 (X)

I agree that CD-ROM is NOT the answer you're looking for.  My understanding of
the 32meg limit is that it only applies if you insist on using 512 byte
sectors.  When I was watching the MS-DOS world more closely, it seems to me
that there was a manufacturer who had some VERY large disks on PCs by upping
the sector size to 32K, but I don't remember who. Sorry.





#: 355 S3/CDROM Applications
    03-Apr-88  16:25:43
Sb: #349-cdrom
Fm: Eric Carter 75206,1625
To: sherwood egbert 71171,1774 (X)

Compaq's DOS 3.31 can handle partitions up to 512MB in size, I believe. -Eric





#: 356 S1/General Information
    03-Apr-88  22:20:12
Sb: #351-scanners
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: John McCormick 76360,44

John - You just may turn out to be my guru!!!  It seems you have vast
experience and knowledge of much of the hardware and software I'm pining for!
I have downloaded your message for reference, and I will bombard you with
questions as soon as I can figure out where to begin (and come up with a
strategy to avoid being a pest!).  I have just acquired MemoryMate and Gofer,
which are now installed on my XT clone with hard disk and Bernoulli.  They seem
alright for the files I have either typed in or downloaded a smidgeon at a time
over the last 2 years.  What is the advantage of Word Cruncher over Zyindex?
Speed?  Will either work with optical media?  And what in the world are you
doing with so many scanners?  Are they yours personally? Are you happy with the
Kurzweill?  Thanks for everything, Mark



#: 357 S4/Adding CDROM Access
    03-Apr-88  22:24:43
Sb: #277-new memeber
Fm: CAROL FENICHEL 72115,620
To: Robert C. Osburne 76357,2402

MEDLINE is available on CD-ROM from at least seven vendors.  Also, a very good
drug database called DRUGDEX.



#: 358 S1/General Information
    03-Apr-88  22:24:45
Sb: #351-scanners
Fm: Mark Schneider 71330,467
To: John McCormick 76360,44

John  -  Hope I'm not overdoing it already, but (feeling like Lieutenant
Columbo!) let me ask one more question:  Are any of the MS-DOS programs that
you're familiar with capable of "hypertext" linkages between records or files?
Have you tried Owl's Guide on a P.C.?  Thanks again, Mark



#: 359 S1/General Information
    03-Apr-88  23:09:48
Sb: WP,SPR,Disk
Fm: Ermilo Novelo 72747,2012
To: SYSOP

I have purchased a Model 100, and would like recommendations on Word Processing
software, Spreadsheet, Disk Drive, and carring case for this equipment. (also a
portable printer).  I had no luck using the "DL".  I didnot know the Keywords.
Could use a hand. Many Thanks for your attention. Ermilo



#: 360 S1/General Information
    04-Apr-88  01:59:06
Sb: #327-Pressing Disks
Fm: Frank Paladino 70446,1455
To: Kenneth Wm. Miller, II 76367,2733 (X)

(No(NoNotReally(NotActuallyEverHavingBeenOne(Uh-uh)))). --Frank



#: 361 S1/General Information
    04-Apr-88  07:26:07
Sb: #291-CD-ROM REVIEW and CIS
Fm: John Ausland 73240,2704
To: J.S. Frentzen 76117,2127

I read your message with interest.  I subscribed to CD-ROM REVIEW a year ago
and found it helpful in making my decision regarding what player to buy (I
decided on HITACHI) and which programs (so far BOOKSHELF and GROLIER).  I did
not find it very helpful, however, in dealing with some of the minor questions:
how much memory I would need, exactly what the DOS Extensions were, could I
operate a 110 volts machine here in Norway with a transformer? etc.  What would
be useful would be more articles which deal with the practical problems
confronted by the prospective buyer, who has little interest in the technical
problems.

I am wondering now to what extent the results of your work will appear here on
this forum.



#: 362 S1/General Information
    04-Apr-88  07:26:29
Sb: NEW MEMBER
Fm: John Ausland 73240,2704
To: all

Oslo, Norway.  I have just learned of this forum as a result of an inquiry to
Easyplex.  Glad to see it.  I have just acquired a HITACHI player and two
programs, BOOKSHELF and GROLIERS.  I am a writer, mainly on foreign policy and
military matters.  I am, therefore, looking forward to discs which provide the
kind of information I now get by going online, particularly newspapers and
other publications.

Since I use TAPCIS, the introduction to the forum scrolled by very quickly.
Could someone tell me who the SYSOP is and what the aims of the forum are?

John Craft spoke of his store.  What is this?  Who else on the forum is selling
discs?



#: 363 S3/CDROM Applications
    04-Apr-88  07:48:40
Sb: #cdrom sampler
Fm: John Ausland 73240,2704
To: all

Oslo, Norway.  I have downloaded the file MSGLD.PR about the CDROM SAMPLER. I
do not, however, have access to a 800 number from here.  If Jack Ryan or
someone else connected with this disc reads this message, I would be glad to
have a copy.  I am in touch here through a bulletin board with a number of
people interested in CDROM.  My address is Sondreveien 4, 0378 Oslo 3, Norway.
Many thanks.

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#: 364 S3/CDROM Applications
    04-Apr-88  11:00:35
Sb: #363-cdrom sampler
Fm: Jack Ryan 76164,1273
To: John Ausland 73240,2704

Thanks for your request.  I have sent you a copy of the CDROM Sampler
for your review.  If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to
drop a note in the Forum or to send a mail message.

Regards...
Jack Ryan